Topic: Three part of “Individual talent” by T.S Eliot
Name: Nasim .R .Gaha
Roll No: 22 ( Twenty two)
Year: 2018-2020
Inrollment No: 2069108420190014
M.A : sem-2( two)
Email.id: gahanasim786@gmail.com
Paper No: 7((seven)literary Theory and criticism The 20th western and Indian poetics)
Submitted to:Smt.S.B Gardi Department of English mharaja krishanakumarsihji bhavnagar university
He was born 1888 and died 1965
He was a great critic, poet,playwright and journalist.
Eliot come with new ideas in criticism`s world in 19th century.
Eliot`s criticism became revolutionary at that time.
he was very practical man.
20th century got 'metaphysical' revival because of Eliot.
Because he was the first person who recognized or a accepted the uniqueness of metaphysical of 17th century.
Eliot planned numerous critical concepts that a broad influence on criticism.
Objective co-relative, Dissociation, of sensibility, unification of sensibility, theory of Denationalization etc.
TRADITION INDIVIDUAL TALENT ESSAY:
The essay was first published in The Egoist.
The Egoist was a literary magazine.which is considered today as England's most modernist periodical.This essay was later publish in The sacred wood Which is Eliot`s first book of criticism. Eliot’s idea of tradition as critics and theorists have been doing of late, from a more impartial perspective.we are not in the position of earlier critics, who often worked with Eliot’s premisses and assumption; on the other hand, as Eliot might have written,We cannot know where we are now without knowing how we got here: high modernism, and Eliot’s essential contribution to it leads to where we are today-or,as he did write in ‘Tradition and the individual Talent,
Moreover’ Tradition and the Individual Talent’ is still potentially a remarkably fertile essay: it exhilaratingly courts the dangers of self-contradiction, and at some level it knows it.It is self – conscious as a critical performance and and anticipates any deconstructive reading.These qualities inhere in its elliptical style, Where corners are cut,logic is slippery,and the progression from one sentence to the next can be mercurial.
1) conception of tradition: He says about Englishmen`s attitude towards french literature. Englishmen have a habit to feel proud on themselves. That is the proud for their creativity and more less practicality. In french there is a mass of critical writing. Eliot compares English with french that they have habit of critical method and English have a habit of conclusion. For Eliot, the term "tradition" is imbued with a special and complex character. It represents a "simultaneous order," by which Eliot means a historical timelessness – a fusion of past and present – and, at the same time, a sense of present temporality. A poet must embody "the whole of the literature of Europe from Homer," while, simultaneously, expressing their contemporary environment. Eliot challenges the common perception that a poet's greatness and individuality lie in their departure from their predecessors; he argues that "the most individual parts of his
We only conclude that the french are more critical than we and sometimes even plume ourselves a little with the fact as if the french were less spontaneous.
Eliot say criticism is as inevitable as breathing
He admire those aspects which are different from the poets predecessors
They want uniqueness.The always find isolation of the poet from his immediate processor.
such resemblance is mostly seen in the period of maturity of the poet, not in the period of adolescence.
so,by this he asserts that tradition and individuality go together.
The historical sense is inevitable for any poet. Then Eliot talks about tradition and historical sense He says that if the from of tradition remained only in blind adherence of dead people or ancestors, then it would be lost or such tradition should be destroyed.According to Eliot in every traditions also there is a bit of novelty.Tradition is a matter of much wider significance. It can not be inherited,and if you want it you must obtain it by great lab our.It involves in the first place, the historical sense. The historical sense forces a man to write not only by the own generation, but with the whole age of English litterateur.It harmonizes two different things timeless and temporarily in poet`s work.No poet no artist of any art has his complete meaning alone. His significance,his appreciation is the appreciation of his relation of the dead poets and artists. you can not value him alone,you must set him,for contrast and comparison among the dead.Conformity between the old the new. The whole order of existing moment is readjusted with addition of new work.so,by this unchangeable.The past should be altered by the present as much as the present is directed by the past.A poet can not use past as a sapless mass.The dead writers are remote from ua because we know so much more thane they did.He talks about necessary of knowledge for poets. He rejects that belief that a poet requires a huge amount of learning. He believes that much learning deadens or perverts poetic sensibility. He is not in favour of confining the knowledge for examination, library or publicity.The progress of an artist is a continual self sacrifice,a continual extinction of personality.
2)Theory of impersonal of poetry :Honest criticism and sensitive appreciation is directed not upon the poet but upon the poetry.Eliot compares criticism with science. There are two gases needed : oxygen and sulfur dioxide. and also they must have the presence of filament platinum.He compares this palpation with the poet.In this whole process the filament of platinum plays vital and inevitable role.But yet that role is indirect. In that process platinum remains inert and unchanged.It should give its total contribution in creating poetry, also it should remain unaffected and separate when poetry has come out.According to him The poet`s mind is like a utensil in which numerous feeling,phrases and images can be stored or seized. When a poet wants them he unites them. It does not mean that the poem created by the poet shows his personality or nature.This balance of constructed demotion is in the dramatic situation to which the speech is pertinent,but that situation alone is inadequate it.Every time poet`s own emotion can not be taken place in the poem. A poet has to use ordinary emotions.Poetry is a great deal.When a poet becomes personal while writing poetry,he will be considered as a bad poet.Because, he becomes unconscious, where he should be concision.When a poet escapes from his personality,then the great This fidelity to tradition, however, does not require the great poet to forfeit novelty in an act of surrender to repetition. Rather, Eliot has a much more dynamic and progressive conception of the poetic process: novelty is possible only through tapping into tradition. When a poet engages in the creation of new work, they realise an aesthetic "ideal order," as it has been established by the literary tradition that has come before them. As such, the act of artistic creation does not take place in a vacuum. The introduction of a new work alters the cohesion of this existing order, and causes a readjustment of the old to accommodate the new. The inclusion of the new work alters the way in which the past is seen; elements of the past that are noted and realised. In Eliot’s own words, "What happens when a new work of art is created is something that happens simultaneously to all the works of art that preceded it." Eliot refers to this organic tradition, this developing canon, as the "mind of Europe." The private mind is subsumed by this more massive one. comes.He says; poetry is not a turning loose of emotion,but an escape from emotion,it is not the expression of personality.
3)Conclusion: It is very hard thing to take interest in poetry to keep a poet aside.we usually read poem with the name and fame of the poet. We can not separate from each other.A poem must know that to reach the level of impersonation,he first has to scarifies himself and has to surrender himself totally to that work. The implications here separate Eliot's idea of talent from the conventional definition (just as his idea of Tradition is separate from the conventional definition), one so far from it, perhaps, that he chooses never to directly label it as talent. Whereas the conventional definition of talent, especially in the arts, is a genius that one is born with. Not so for Eliot. Instead, talent is acquired through a careful study of poetry, claiming that Tradition, "cannot be inherited, and if you want it, you must obtain it by great labour." Eliot asserts that it is absolutely necessary for the poet to study, to have an understanding of the poets before them, and to be well versed enough that they can understand and incorporate the "mind of Europe" into their poetry. But the poet's study is unique – it is knowledge that "does not encroach," and that does not "deaden or pervert poetic sensibility." It is, to put it most simply, a poetic knowledge – knowledge observed through a poetic lens. This ideal implies that knowledge gleaned by a poet is not knowledge of facts, but knowledge which leads to a greater
Name: Nasim .R .Gaha
Roll No: 22 ( Twenty two)
Year: 2018-2020
Inrollment No: 2069108420190014
M.A : sem-2( two)
Email.id: gahanasim786@gmail.com
Paper No: 7((seven)literary Theory and criticism The 20th western and Indian poetics)
Submitted to:Smt.S.B Gardi Department of English mharaja krishanakumarsihji bhavnagar university
He was born 1888 and died 1965
He was a great critic, poet,playwright and journalist.
Eliot come with new ideas in criticism`s world in 19th century.
Eliot`s criticism became revolutionary at that time.
he was very practical man.
20th century got 'metaphysical' revival because of Eliot.
Because he was the first person who recognized or a accepted the uniqueness of metaphysical of 17th century.
Eliot planned numerous critical concepts that a broad influence on criticism.
Objective co-relative, Dissociation, of sensibility, unification of sensibility, theory of Denationalization etc.
TRADITION INDIVIDUAL TALENT ESSAY:
The essay was first published in The Egoist.
The Egoist was a literary magazine.which is considered today as England's most modernist periodical.This essay was later publish in The sacred wood Which is Eliot`s first book of criticism. Eliot’s idea of tradition as critics and theorists have been doing of late, from a more impartial perspective.we are not in the position of earlier critics, who often worked with Eliot’s premisses and assumption; on the other hand, as Eliot might have written,We cannot know where we are now without knowing how we got here: high modernism, and Eliot’s essential contribution to it leads to where we are today-or,as he did write in ‘Tradition and the individual Talent,
Moreover’ Tradition and the Individual Talent’ is still potentially a remarkably fertile essay: it exhilaratingly courts the dangers of self-contradiction, and at some level it knows it.It is self – conscious as a critical performance and and anticipates any deconstructive reading.These qualities inhere in its elliptical style, Where corners are cut,logic is slippery,and the progression from one sentence to the next can be mercurial.
1) conception of tradition: He says about Englishmen`s attitude towards french literature. Englishmen have a habit to feel proud on themselves. That is the proud for their creativity and more less practicality. In french there is a mass of critical writing. Eliot compares English with french that they have habit of critical method and English have a habit of conclusion. For Eliot, the term "tradition" is imbued with a special and complex character. It represents a "simultaneous order," by which Eliot means a historical timelessness – a fusion of past and present – and, at the same time, a sense of present temporality. A poet must embody "the whole of the literature of Europe from Homer," while, simultaneously, expressing their contemporary environment. Eliot challenges the common perception that a poet's greatness and individuality lie in their departure from their predecessors; he argues that "the most individual parts of his
We only conclude that the french are more critical than we and sometimes even plume ourselves a little with the fact as if the french were less spontaneous.
Eliot say criticism is as inevitable as breathing
He admire those aspects which are different from the poets predecessors
They want uniqueness.The always find isolation of the poet from his immediate processor.
such resemblance is mostly seen in the period of maturity of the poet, not in the period of adolescence.
so,by this he asserts that tradition and individuality go together.
The historical sense is inevitable for any poet. Then Eliot talks about tradition and historical sense He says that if the from of tradition remained only in blind adherence of dead people or ancestors, then it would be lost or such tradition should be destroyed.According to Eliot in every traditions also there is a bit of novelty.Tradition is a matter of much wider significance. It can not be inherited,and if you want it you must obtain it by great lab our.It involves in the first place, the historical sense. The historical sense forces a man to write not only by the own generation, but with the whole age of English litterateur.It harmonizes two different things timeless and temporarily in poet`s work.No poet no artist of any art has his complete meaning alone. His significance,his appreciation is the appreciation of his relation of the dead poets and artists. you can not value him alone,you must set him,for contrast and comparison among the dead.Conformity between the old the new. The whole order of existing moment is readjusted with addition of new work.so,by this unchangeable.The past should be altered by the present as much as the present is directed by the past.A poet can not use past as a sapless mass.The dead writers are remote from ua because we know so much more thane they did.He talks about necessary of knowledge for poets. He rejects that belief that a poet requires a huge amount of learning. He believes that much learning deadens or perverts poetic sensibility. He is not in favour of confining the knowledge for examination, library or publicity.The progress of an artist is a continual self sacrifice,a continual extinction of personality.
2)Theory of impersonal of poetry :Honest criticism and sensitive appreciation is directed not upon the poet but upon the poetry.Eliot compares criticism with science. There are two gases needed : oxygen and sulfur dioxide. and also they must have the presence of filament platinum.He compares this palpation with the poet.In this whole process the filament of platinum plays vital and inevitable role.But yet that role is indirect. In that process platinum remains inert and unchanged.It should give its total contribution in creating poetry, also it should remain unaffected and separate when poetry has come out.According to him The poet`s mind is like a utensil in which numerous feeling,phrases and images can be stored or seized. When a poet wants them he unites them. It does not mean that the poem created by the poet shows his personality or nature.This balance of constructed demotion is in the dramatic situation to which the speech is pertinent,but that situation alone is inadequate it.Every time poet`s own emotion can not be taken place in the poem. A poet has to use ordinary emotions.Poetry is a great deal.When a poet becomes personal while writing poetry,he will be considered as a bad poet.Because, he becomes unconscious, where he should be concision.When a poet escapes from his personality,then the great This fidelity to tradition, however, does not require the great poet to forfeit novelty in an act of surrender to repetition. Rather, Eliot has a much more dynamic and progressive conception of the poetic process: novelty is possible only through tapping into tradition. When a poet engages in the creation of new work, they realise an aesthetic "ideal order," as it has been established by the literary tradition that has come before them. As such, the act of artistic creation does not take place in a vacuum. The introduction of a new work alters the cohesion of this existing order, and causes a readjustment of the old to accommodate the new. The inclusion of the new work alters the way in which the past is seen; elements of the past that are noted and realised. In Eliot’s own words, "What happens when a new work of art is created is something that happens simultaneously to all the works of art that preceded it." Eliot refers to this organic tradition, this developing canon, as the "mind of Europe." The private mind is subsumed by this more massive one. comes.He says; poetry is not a turning loose of emotion,but an escape from emotion,it is not the expression of personality.
3)Conclusion: It is very hard thing to take interest in poetry to keep a poet aside.we usually read poem with the name and fame of the poet. We can not separate from each other.A poem must know that to reach the level of impersonation,he first has to scarifies himself and has to surrender himself totally to that work. The implications here separate Eliot's idea of talent from the conventional definition (just as his idea of Tradition is separate from the conventional definition), one so far from it, perhaps, that he chooses never to directly label it as talent. Whereas the conventional definition of talent, especially in the arts, is a genius that one is born with. Not so for Eliot. Instead, talent is acquired through a careful study of poetry, claiming that Tradition, "cannot be inherited, and if you want it, you must obtain it by great labour." Eliot asserts that it is absolutely necessary for the poet to study, to have an understanding of the poets before them, and to be well versed enough that they can understand and incorporate the "mind of Europe" into their poetry. But the poet's study is unique – it is knowledge that "does not encroach," and that does not "deaden or pervert poetic sensibility." It is, to put it most simply, a poetic knowledge – knowledge observed through a poetic lens. This ideal implies that knowledge gleaned by a poet is not knowledge of facts, but knowledge which leads to a greater
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